Command Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Not that this is gonna clear anything up and probably offer more confusion than anything I did find this. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=55 If we use that chart I would have 10 ply sidewalls cause I have an LT with the E Load range........ffs haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Not that this is gonna clear anything up and probably offer more confusion than anything I did find this. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=55 If we use that chart I would have 10 ply sidewalls cause I have an LT with the E Load range........ffs haha That ply rating is for the tread, not the sidewall. If you ran a 10 ply sidewall, it would be called a "run flat" and ride like a wagon wheel ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Aha I knew there was something wrong with that. I was thinking about it on the way home and figured you'd be indestructible which would be huge selling point I would think. Oh well the mystery continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 it wouldnt be that much of a selling point, imagine the weight of such a tire. bye bye fuel economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 it wouldnt be that much of a selling point, imagine the weight of such a tire. bye bye fuel economy What is this "Fuel economy" thing you speak of? I bought a 4x4 (and modded it) not a Prius B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I got a reply from GY, but they only answered the question about one size. They said that the LT245/70-17 E are still only a 2ply side wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I received the same tonight, however, I did not specify a size... From: [email protected] on 09/10/2014 05:54 PM Sent by: Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company Consumer Relations 728 200 Innovation Way Akron, OH 44316-0001 Voice #: 800.321.2136 Fax #: 330.796.6829 Thank you for contacting our web site and for your interest in Goodyear tires. The DuraTrac has a two ply sidewall. If you require a 3 p;y sidewall you might want to consider the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar. Barbara Consumer Relations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 yeah, but with a 10 ply sidewwall, the tires would probably weight 175 each. that rotational mass would kill fuel mileage even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I received the same tonight, however, I did not specify a size... From: [email protected] on 09/10/2014 05:54 PM Sent by: Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company Consumer Relations 728 200 Innovation Way Akron, OH 44316-0001 Voice #: 800.321.2136 Fax #: 330.796.6829 Thank you for contacting our web site and for your interest in Goodyear tires. The DuraTrac has a two ply sidewall. If you require a 3 p;y sidewall you might want to consider the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar. Barbara Consumer Relations That blows! They're such a good all around tire, it would be nice if they made them a little stronger. I wouldn't mind trying the MT/R's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoecanadian Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Looks nice with the new meats, did you get a chance to play it the little bit of snow our here in alberta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 the MT/Rs are really good. two of my buddies have been running them for a couple years and have nothing bad to say about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My04T4R Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Ive seen bad reviews all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Looks nice with the new meats, did you get a chance to play it the little bit of snow our here in alberta? Thanks, actually no I didn't :( where I am the snow didnt last very long and whenever I was in Calgary I kept just missing the storm. I did find some mud out here (not alot, but enough) and noticed that I didn't even spin a tire nor did they clog up, so far so good :) Ive seen bad reviews all over You talking about the MT/R's? Throughout my research I've actually found more negative reviews about them then the Duratracs. Alot believe it or not were sidewall issues, punctures, rock rash etc. Other issues were hard to balance, out of round, awful in snow, bad in heavy rain etc. Not sure how accurate this is but it seems to be the trend, again tons of variables involved but the sidewall issue keeps coming up with these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 yeah, they are not the greatest in snow. but my toyo M/T are also not great in the snow and ice, as most mud terrain tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 MT's suck in the snow...period! I must admit that I am very disappointed to hear about the 2 ply sidewall. I've been researching online and have seen many people post about 3 ply in certain sizes. I'm still leaning heavily towards the Duratrac as I ran Bridgestone Revo2's that were P rated (2 ply sidewall as well) for the first 4 years I owned the X without an issue. This included some very challenging trails when they were at their end of life. I sent the following response back to GY in hopes that people will listen: Thank-you for your response in regards to the Duratrac sidewall, however, your alternative is not a valid option as MT's are horrible (borderline dangerous) in the snow & ice. In my area, we encounter snow & icy roads for 4-5 months of the year. Maybe something could be changed to address this issue to make the Duratrac the #1 tire to go to as opposed to BFG? I wonder if Canadian Tire offers warranty replacement on the LT line of tires?? (paging James, would you please chime in? lol). The "Territory" line of tires on your Heep, are they LT or P rated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastcam Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 LT and I purchased the replacement warranty, in the event of having unrepairable damage (ex. sidewall...). I used the warranty last January after I sliced a sidewall while aired down to 10psi when playing around in Hard & Soft after one of our blizzards. Warranty was worth every penny B) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 LT and I purchased the replacement warranty, in the event of having unrepairable damage (ex. sidewall...). I used the warranty last January after I sliced a sidewall while aired down to 10psi when playing around in Hard & Soft after one of our blizzardsblizzards. Warranty was worth every penny B) . Just about to say the same, I have LT's and was offered warranty as well. Now the twist (for me, most normal people won't have this issue) I bought them from CT, CT offered me the warranty, CT did not install tires therefore will not warranty them, got them installed somewhere else, will not warranty them cause I did not buy the tires from them. Ugh...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Interesting. Appears I'll pull a "James manoeuver" and arrive with the rims in hand. I have a set of 16" steelies that I was going to mount dedicated winters, but the more I think about, it's an unnecessary expense as I only put 10k/year on the Xterra. Also, the only time I air down is in the winter for additional foot-print in deep snow. Haven't had an issue...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Just about to say the same, I have LT's and was offered warranty as well. Now the twist (for me, most normal people won't have this issue) I bought them from CT, CT offered me the warranty, CT did not install tires therefore will not warranty them, got them installed somewhere else, will not warranty them cause I did not buy the tires from them. Ugh...lol Yup, warranty only at the time and place of purchase and installation! Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Finally broke another leaf spring lol How difficult is it to change out a leaf pack? In my head it doesn't seem to difficult but we all know how my head works haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Simple, but... Generally the main leaf doesn't break. Then really all you're doing is replacing one leaf. Take the wheel off, support the frame, support the axle, unbolt the U-bolts, and the centre bolt, put in a new leaf, bolt back up. Have the right leaf: length, thickness, width and arch, on hand? And have U-bolts made up? Not likely. Bit of a PITA. In general, on a daily driver without a spare vehicle, ya take it to the spring shop and say I'll pick it up tonight! Depends on your time, spare vehicle, garage, jack stands, big wrenches / impact gun, etc. A broken main leaf is a bigger PITA, ya have to remove old spring bushings. I did a main leaf a couple years ago. I was some happy I noticed the crack in it before it broke on the highway with disastrous results! And DO NOT RE_USE U-bolts on a daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 It was a helper spring that broke, a 6"chunk flew off after going over a rail crossing. I'll be replacing the whole leaf pack, ordered it in from Nissan. I'm hoping it comes with the hardware as well. I'm 45 mins away from the nearest shop, figure out of convenience I'll try it myself. So all I'd be doing is removing one pack and putting in a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 As you say, hopefully you get the hardware. You won't need a centre bolt, but you will need U-bolts and likely new bushings and shackle bolts for the main leaf. Or I'm just used to working on 30 yr-old ****! lol After ya get 'er all back together, RE_TIGHTEN those U-bolts after 100 miles! Twice! With long wrenches / ratchet handles! For an older vehicle, expect sag on the old springs, if you put a new pack on one side, she might be lop-sided for a while. At a spring shop, they often change the same leaf on both sides so she stays level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 if you have trouble lining up the last bolts, you can use a jack to help... http://xterrra.blogspot.ca/2013/06/rear-shackles-installed.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I like your website Jay. The year 2099 has me puzzled though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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