e36m3 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I replaced my rear calipers, pads, rotors and parking brake assembly recently. I tried to bleed the rear but dont get any fluid coming out. I had to apply the brakes to be able to put the truck in neutral ( AT tranny ) and the master cylinder reservoir was empty. I filled it up, a bunch of bubbles came out. I still get a firm pedal after a 3-4 pumps, but nothing in the rear, anyone ever had that happen? Its all I need to do before the alignment and the big tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoecanadian Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I has an issue like that bleeding a clutch before, if it's firm the bleeder is closed. If bleeder is. Other closed push harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil'monster Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 If you have abs it can sometimes need to be bled with a scanner hooked up to it to override the abs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 hum, nice. so that means towing to a toyota dealership to get it done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoecanadian Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Oh abs, I never owned a Toyota but have had cars with abs and never had that issue. Turn the truck off and just use manual brakes and see if that will let you bleed the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I've read that with mine, you would have to bring it to a garage that can turn the abs pump on to get it to bleed properly. Not sure where, other than a dealer that could do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 the truck was off, though, i never turned it on. i'll ask a friend who is a red seal mechanic on monday and worked at dealerships for about 10 years. cant wait to get her done so i can go get my 34s mounted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 just got a reply from the FJ cruiser forum and they say that you have to turn the key to the ON position. i ll try that tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Bled the brakes on a friends 09 Taco just over a month ago and had no issues. You have to have the ignition on the bleed the rear brakes; that is you issue. We found a site that posted the FSM procedure...I'll see if I can fin it. You will hear the pump running as you bleed the rear brakes, but the front are bled as usual. ETA: I started the post and had to run after a kid and you found the answer. You MIGHT" have to go to the dealership if you have a soft pedal after bleeding the rear lines. There is a small reservoir of fluid that the ABS unit uses to work the ABS/Trac control system. If there is air in that section, the pump needs to be turned on constant to remove that air. link to the section of the FSM specific to bleeding brakes (it's a PDF link) http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/attachments/maintenance-tech/26409d1222909734-bleeding-brake-fluid-air-lines-br-5-brake-bleeding.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 thanks, thats also what the guys on fjcruiser forums just replied. i just did the front about 3 weeks ago with no issue, but like you said, you have to get the pump going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Hope it works for you Jon, so you don't have to go to the stealership to get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 the worst part would be to get it towed there from porters lake. I will probably go for a run next weekend when my skids are back on the truck with the new tires and lift kit, to see how it does. i was thinking about hard n soft, if someone wants to guide me as i dont know the area well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSinclair Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Sorry I didn't see this sooner. You just need to have the key on as stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My04T4R Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 the worst part would be to get it towed there from porters lake. I will probably go for a run next weekend when my skids are back on the truck with the new tires and lift kit, to see how it does. i was thinking about hard n soft, if someone wants to guide me as i dont know the area well there. I have got the gps track of that run if you. Want it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 yeah that would work, i ll post up in the trail section, i dont want to go there by myself even with coordinates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 the abs light comes up and beeps if i hold the brakes for too long. i guess i ll have to bring to the dealership to reset the abs. one weird thing is when i fired the truck, the battery light came up too and never went away. i went for a rip in the bush for about an hour and never went away. as i was on my home the radio shut down, the wipers had no power and every time i would hit the brakes, the voltmeter would drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoecanadian Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Sounds like maybe air in the line and your alternator went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 air in the line is very possible. alternator going is also very possible from the way i drove the thing in the past year haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 i just finished charging my battery, and tested with the truck running and not running. the battery loses its charge when i fire the truck, so i ll be on the hunt for a new alternator, F**k me, this truck really doesnt want to run these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoecanadian Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I know how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 i just want to go abuse the truck, not spend every night working on the thing :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Hey, I never hear Jeep guys complaining that they drive their rigs hard and they never break down? Oh wait, maybe! I can't speak for mrjoe's truck but we get the feeling you use yours hard John! I don't believe we can drive them off-highway, especially in our rust prone climate, and not have problems. I know mine has spent many months and once even a couple years sitting in the back of the lot waiting for some much loved TLC. Now that I've gone higher, with bigger axles, and upgraded many a part (Check out Off Road Design, http://offroaddesign.com/), I've reduced a significant number of potential problems. But I've had others! If you wanna play, you gotta pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e36m3 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 anyone ever ordered a brush pack for their alternator? i looked it up on google and it seems really easy to replace. i m thinking about just getting a new brush pack, slap it on there and see if it works. pretty much do like this guy did http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/engine-performance/70947-battery-light-possible-fix-your-alternator.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My04T4R Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Our alternators dont output many amps, would be a good time for an upgrade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Generally for my old truck you just buy a remanufactured alternator, everything is $70. Starter, alternator, 1-ton rotors, etc. When the alternator went in my old Camry, and I went to Towne Toyota I think, before it became O'Regans, they said take it over to Rand Electric, which is what they would do for a rebuild. It cost less than $100 at the time, a new Toyota one was several hundred. Rand is now in Bayers Lake, there are similar places in Dartmouth. AND a couple of years ago I did just as suggested above. I purchased a high-output alternator for mine. The one that was in it for the 10+ years that I owned it worked great, but the mounting bolt was seized in the case, and I feared that if I had to change the alternator away from home it might be even seized in the block. So I seized the opportunity to repair in the comfort of the garage with a higher output one. You have to also know that my truck had the OEM high output alternator of the time, which was 60 amps, the regular one was 45 amp. With today's electrics that is absurdly small! I did put a 130-140 amp one in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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