trailwalker Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Hey Guys, So I am looking at getting some new meats for my rig. I was online looking at CDN tire and I came across a good deal on the Dura Tracs and I don't understand the difference between http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tires/light-truck-tires/product/0081369P/goodyear-wrangler-duratrac/0072490/ and http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tires/light-truck-tires/product/0081369P/goodyear-wrangler-duratrac/0072407/ Is there any reason I shouldn't buy the cheaper tire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 The more expensive one is a high load range. You don't really need the high load tire for a Jeep, and it will also ride rougher than the cheaper one. I don't see a need to get the more expensive tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Do you drive a car or a truck? lol As a Jeep I don't know! Seriously! One is a P (Passenger car) rated tire, the other is a LT (Light Truck) rated tire. I'd have to research more to know the difference, except that if you carry unusually heavy loads and/or abuse your tires at times, the LT is the way to go. My 'flotation' syle tires, at 37 12.5 17 or whatever size they are, are not LTs. I hope someone has a better reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWood Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 The first ones (218 each) are built for a LT (Light truck) which is what I would suggest for the Jeep. They have a stronger sidewall strength and are a more durable tire. The other ones as Eugene mentioned are a P rated tire. More designed for a passenger vehicle that will never see off road. I have not run this brand tire but I know James has run a similar one and swears by them. Also if your going to be going off road at all, I would suggest spending the little bit extra and getting the LT's, and the tire warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Thank you all for the info so far. I was hoping for the cheaper tire as that would let me get all 5 for almost the same price as 4 of the other. I have not wheeled the Jeep yet(I know) , I don't have a trailer and the most that has been in it so far is me The Missus and 2 kids. So I am not sure if load will matter all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWood Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Load not that much, and if your not wheeling much at all you can save some cash and go with the P rated one. The other thing to check is I know CT was having a buy 3 get one free sale on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 for load range for tires SL has The maximum load capacity in pounds will be listed on the tire sidewall or in tire load/inflation charts. All SL-rated tires of the same size will have the same load capacity. For example, all P235/75R15 SL tires have a maximum load capacity of 2,018 pounds.Read more : http://www.ehow.com/about_6642758_load-sl-truck-tire-mean_.html that must be per tire. The Jeep Weighs just over 4000 lbs. So that should mean as long as I dont have an extra 4k in weight I should be OK....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 mind you I am looking at 245/70/17 so it may be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 but 180 a tire vs almost 230 seems like a no brainer if it will work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 for load range for tires SL has that must be per tire. The Jeep Weighs just over 4000 lbs. So that should mean as long as I dont have an extra 4k in weight I should be OK....right? right. And there is a safety factor built in for temporarily under-inflated tires (over heating) and over loading. You would be fine with those tires! Load Range E is for fully loaded 3/4 ton trucks with up to 85 psi per tire, and often ride like a buck board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yes, GET THE WARRANTY!! I've sliced completely through the sidewall of two tires, and almost through another. Duratracs only have a 2ply sidewall. While I think they are a great all around tire, I want to get something with a 3ply sidewall for my next tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I'd still say to get the cheaper ones. You'll have a more comfortable ride, and they are also 10lbs lighter than the E rated one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Sweet!! With the money I save I can get the 5th tire and the warranty LOL...money well spent. On a side note anyone interested in 5 Goodyear Wrangler SR/A with about 5 K on them or 4 Goodyear Silent Armour in pretty good shape?? CODENAME: Tirefund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yes, GET THE WARRANTY!! I've sliced completely through the sidewall of two tires, and almost through another. Duratracs only have a 2ply sidewall. While I think they are a great all around tire, I want to get something with a 3ply sidewall for my next tires. All P rated Duratracs are 2 ply sidewall; all LT's are 3 ply. That + an additional 2/32nds in tread depth make up the difference in the cost (and weight) when comparing the 2. Go to tirerack.com to compare (16 vs. 18 32nds) Believe me, I've researched these tires to death and they are my go to (lost 2 Kijiji offers in the past 12 months). Now that Crappy Tire has replaced them with the Goodyear Territory line, I'll be installing a set in the fall on my 17's so I don't have to run 2 sets. MT's suck in the winter & I'm not doing that again ;) In your case, I would go with LT's, but that's my opinion. You run a lower pressure in the tire to get the same ride as P rated, but the additional sidewall protection (mall curbs, maybe later trails ;) ) and additional tread depth will have you ahead in the end; again, my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastcam Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Cory, the Duratracs are now replacing the Wrangler Territories. Are you planning to get bigger than stock sized tires? Good opportunity to go a size bigger. My Territories are LT, Load Rating C. You will be sorry if you were to get the E load rating on a light Jeep. Get the replacement warranty too... If you need to replace 1 tire it is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 All P rated Duratracs are 2 ply sidewall; all LT's are 3 ply. That + an additional 2/32nds in tread depth make up the difference in the cost (and weight) when comparing the 2. Go to tirerack.com to compare (16 vs. 18 32nds) Believe me, I've researched these tires to death and they are my go to (lost 2 Kijiji offers in the past 12 months). Now that Crappy Tire has replaced them with the Goodyear Territory line, I'll be installing a set in the fall on my 17's so I don't have to run 2 sets. MT's suck in the winter & I'm not doing that again ;) In your case, I would go with LT's, but that's my opinion. You run a lower pressure in the tire to get the same ride as P rated, but the additional sidewall protection (mall curbs, maybe later trails ;) ) and additional tread depth will have you ahead in the end; again, my opinion. Mine are LT, E range and they are only 2 ply for the sidewalls. Scott Duff can verify that as he looked at mine after I sliced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Mine are LT, E range and they are only 2 ply for the sidewalls. Scott Duff can verify that as he looked at mine after I sliced it. Do you have an older set? The LT285/70/17 LR D's have "3 ply sidewall" molded into them. I friend with 265/60/17 LR C's have the same marking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekmac Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Do you have an older set? The LT285/70/17 LR D's have "3 ply sidewall" molded into them. I friend with 265/60/17 LR C's have the same marking. Not sure on age as I bought them used. Some of the trucks at work have the same size, so I'll try and remember to check them on Tuesday. I honestly don't remember reading about any 3 ply Duratracs, which is something that a lot of people on different forums complained about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Alright, I'm back with this one. I just found out that I can get Cooper Discovery AT3 (265x70x17) or Falken WildPeak (245X75X17) for pretty much the same pricing as the Duratracs on sale at CDN Tire right now. Anyone know about the Falken Wildpeaks? I am not familiar with this one, I have never run Cooper tires either so I am open to opinions. thoughts anyone? Which one would you choose if they were all same pricing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWood Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think there have been some people running coopers, dont know myself about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05TJ Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Give DSL tires a call located on 19 Isnor in burnside ((902) 468-8188). They may have your size in stock , reasonable name brands but can order in tires of any sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My04T4R Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Go for m/t tires! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Alright, I'm back with this one. I just found out that I can get Cooper Discovery AT3 (265x70x17) or Falken WildPeak (245X75X17) for pretty much the same pricing as the Duratracs on sale at CDN Tire right now. Anyone know about the Falken Wildpeaks? I am not familiar with this one, I have never run Cooper tires either so I am open to opinions. thoughts anyone? Which one would you choose if they were all same pricing? I've done a fair amount of research before getting my new tires (bored with not much else to do :p) and have read that the Cooper's are just their version of the BFG AT's (since Cooper makes the tires for BFG and Dick Cepek.....what I've been told but the tread patterns are similiar) and they don't clear out in mud very well (something I did notice with the BFG AT's) again I've only had experience with the BFG AT's (Cooper's AT3 tread is close to the same as BFG AT) I have heard alot of positive reviews about the Duratracs with the one concern, as mentioned above about the sidewall. I have ordered my Duratracs through CT because they were on sale and I'll give them a try. I have not heard anything about the Falken's though so I cant comment on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPrintz Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Cooper owns Mickey Thompson and Dick Septic, Michelin owns BFG. The go-to tire for WK Jeeps in the US is the Duratrac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUXterra Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Go for m/t tires! M/T's suck donkey ___ in the winter. I believe the OP is looking for 4 season tires that are good off-road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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