FLTLNR Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Hey all, I'm starting to look into radio comms for the truck. Last time I ran CB and don't think I want to do that again. I've been watching a couple of overland channels that look like they use what I think is GMRS. Anyone know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnwalker Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Paging @SQRLPWR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 I run CB and GMRS, and we had a push to get folks switched over to GMRS. GMRS is much better audio quality....think AM radio vs FM. The main issue is getting foks switch over, which is why I run both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTLNR Posted March 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, SQRLPWR said: I run CB and GMRS, and we had a push to get folks switched over to GMRS. GMRS is much better audio quality....think AM radio vs FM. The main issue is getting foks switch over, which is why I run both. I just talked to hi-tech comms and they said I'd need a permit? Do you have a link ot info/setup information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 GMRS operates on the 70cm band. 100% no permit needed to operate a GMRS radio you purchase out of you favorite big box store here in Canada - in USA yes GMRS requires a license. TECHNICALLY you can use a 70cm HAM radio to operate on GMRS. HAM radios do require a license to transmit on any frequencies. However, if you're planning on using a HAM radio on GMRS frequencies, that is NOT allowed, because the Canadian rules for GMRS radio equipment restricts the antenna type. This is NOT the case in the USA. HAM radios have removable antennas; "Antenna. In Canada, the antenna must be fixed on the radio. It cannot be removed, and it is illegal to replace or modify it. In the US, licensed users can change the antenna." So, Canada vs USA - different rules. The long winded versions; https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf08655.html https://techvents.wordpress.com/stem-stuff/gmrs-technology/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTLNR Posted March 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 So to get a setup like this @7:08.....would be a pain here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 define pain? do you want to be legal is really the only question. if you feel it's worth the risk and you dont want a hand held, then buy a HAM radio on 70cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinosa Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 @SQRLPWR is there a brand of radio you could recommend? I was on the hunt for GMRS radios, and I was positive we needed an amateur radio operators license for these things, so I'm glad I saw this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTLNR Posted March 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 52 minutes ago, SQRLPWR said: define pain? do you want to be legal is really the only question. if you feel it's worth the risk and you dont want a hand held, then buy a HAM radio on 70cm I prefer to be legal. Security clearance and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnwalker Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 You can buy packs of GMRS at any big box store here off the shelf - Canadian Tire, Best Buy, etc. No license required. They're the little handhelds that parents use with their kids at the beach, mall, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 yes, I was selling the little motorolla t200's for $20 each last summer. they work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 16 hours ago, cinosa said: @SQRLPWR is there a brand of radio you could recommend? I was on the hunt for GMRS radios, and I was positive we needed an amateur radio operators license for these things, so I'm glad I saw this thread. it depends on your budget and features. Personally I'd stick to Motorola, but others work really well too. Just make sure they are GMRS and not FRS only. the advertised range on them is also line of sight, so something to be mindful of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTLNR Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 7 hours ago, autumnwalker said: You can buy packs of GMRS at any big box store here off the shelf - Canadian Tire, Best Buy, etc. No license required. They're the little handhelds that parents use with their kids at the beach, mall, whatever. My understanding is these are frs radios. Specifically ones that are 2 watt with fixed antennas. The handhelds I'm looking for (as a secondary to vehicle mounted) would be 5 watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 just look for anything with more that 14 channels. we operation on ch 16 https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTLNR Posted March 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 So, a dude I've been watching has/shows GMRS radios up to 50w. Based on what you sent, this is illegal in Canada as these are clearly variable antenna and it appears canada requires fixed as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 http://peppersradio.net/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQRLPWR Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 e1.1 section section.3 interestingly only mentions FRS and integral antennas. Maybe its not restricted on GMRS after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLTLNR Posted March 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Seems like gmrs is in fact limited to 2w in canada. Makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWood Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 I picked one of the ones up from Jay and it works pretty well. We didnt have any issues when running the trails at Fox Mountain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnwalker Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 I picked up a set of Cobra (?) ones from Canadian Tire IIRC. They work great with the ones from @SQRLPWR. Cobra 26-km 2-Way Radio, 3-pk Canadian Tire Wait for a sale ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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