Eastcoastcam Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Here is a clip as to why NOT to use just a hitch pin as a towing point from the MOR crew. It could have been much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnwalker Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Wow, gone wrong indeed. Still doesn't make sense to me. Is the tug producing that much more force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailwalker Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'm glad that I go wheeling with you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertMcC Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Wow, gone wrong indeed. Still doesn't make sense to me. Is the tug producing that much more force? Tugging/jerking always applies more force. Myra run, I had a fear of this.. I threw the jeep one end of the tow rope, I was hooking up mine using my shackle, I didnt noticed till in the truck that was just a hitch pin holding the rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastcam Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Wow, gone wrong indeed. Still doesn't make sense to me. Is the tug producing that much more force? It has to do with where and how the force is applied to it with why it is a fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnwalker Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Well I have never done this, but never realized it was an issue. I can certainly say that going forward I will never attempt a recovery using a hitch pin in the loop of a tow strap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Wow, I would not have thought it would break that easily either! But as James says, it is where the force is applied. Normally the strain on a hitch pin is right against both sides/ends on the inside of the receiver, creating a force trying to shear the pin on both sides. And they're really designed for relatively steady loads, not jerking loads. If the strap happened to pull right in the centre of the pin, it creates a 'bending moment', which is a different force altogether. Anyway you look at it, it is testament to using the right equipment for the job, and standing clear! I've often wondered about the difference when using a tow strap as a recovery strap, a tow strap isn't designed for shock loads either. And maybe there are different grades of hitch pins, Grade II, Grade III etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar4x4 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 LOL. I just read the Jan Club Run thread and it was said much easier there: ""Because you're putting stress in the center of the pin, where the draw bar distrubtes the weight across."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWood Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Wow they are lucky no one was standing in the way, wouldnt want to see what happens if there was a person there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnwalker Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yup, recoveries are dangerous, no matter how you look at it. There is always a chance for failure when you have that kind of stress put on components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWood Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Its very true, since wheeling with this club I have learned a lot about recoveries, mainly cause ive been the one being recovered lol, but in all seriousness there is a lot I didnt know that I am glad to know now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtripper Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I always try to practice safe recovery. I do ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88samurai Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 i hate tow straps... i love my long 7/8ths nylon samson braid, its like a bungee cord no sudden snaps like that. i have pulled so many rigs way bigger then by sami with some good momentem. just have to know how to tie a bowline...... always sucks when you let other noobs tie on there trucks, hard to get ur rope back lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastcam Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 i hate tow straps... i love my long 7/8ths nylon samson braid, its like a bungee cord no sudden snaps like that. i have pulled so many rigs way bigger then by sami with some good momentem. just have to know how to tie a bowline...... always sucks when you let other noobs tie on there trucks, hard to get ur rope back lol Is that synthetic winch rope? The elasticity is the difference between a recovery strap and a tow strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertMcC Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I like straps better then cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88samurai Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Is that synthetic winch rope? The elasticity is the difference between a recovery strap and a tow strap. no its not like the stuff used on winches... i do keep a piece of that with me too but its like 3/4 or 7/8th bigger then the winch stuff thats like using wire its just as strong wire but it comes snug like wire..... hard on the gear lol the 7/9ths nylon samson braid will strech like crazy i pulled a 3/4ton 4door long box chev out of soft spot at work once... rear end was sunk to bumpers front was not as bad.... i was in 3rd gear when she come snug out comes the heavy chev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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